-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Enter now the "theistic evolution" compromise position. This concept accepts some g'd or other was involved in creating everything, but used billions of years of evolution to do it... Both the atheist position and the "theistic evolutionist" position depend upon acceptance of billions of years of evolutionism when accounting for all that exists. This means that--like the atheist--the "theistic evolutionist" must also rule out the Biblical God of Creation Who used no evolution and replace Him with some other "god/g'd/g-d" who used billions of years of evolution to create everything. Marshall Hall
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Wrong again, you and Mainstream Science have it backwards. What is not proven are all the explanations that deny Geocentrism even though, at face value, every demonstrable experiment and observation does in fact show the Earth at the center of the universe - and motionless. Mainstream Science has created imaginary explanations that are not proven or demonstrable and thus logically not valid... and then you have the gall to claim that the GC position is "tenuous"?! It is in fact the MS positions that should not be allowed if one is going to appeal to demonstrable observations and experiments framed in logic...it is that simple! It amazes me that you will accept logical contradictions without hesitation before you will accept the plain at-face-value demonstrable and observable facts, and worse you can't seem to even see that!? Allen Daves
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"Most of the harm in the world is done by good people, and not by accident, lapse, or omission. It is the result of their deliberate actions, long persevered in, which they hold to be motivated by high ideals toward virtuous ends… [I]n periods when millions are slaughtered, when torture is practiced, starvation enforced, oppression made a policy, heliocentricity and evolution taught as science, as at present over a large part of the world, and as it has often been in the past, it must be at the behest of very many good people, and even by their direct action, for what they consider a worthy object."
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Can you think of anything more unique among all the points inside a circle than the center of a circle? Hence, looking at other stars with planets revolving around them isn't going to prove anything, because there can only be one center of mass for the universe, and only one object could occupy that center of mass. Every other system you look at will be different. But of course, position is not the only way that the Earth is unique. It is also unique because it is the only body upon which life, in all its complexity, has been found, and I dare say, ever will be found. So if it's unique in life, it should also be unique in position, taking center stage in the saga of the universe. Yes, what we are claiming is quite audacious, but then again, that's what mankind believed for all of its existence until Copernicus came along and switched centers on us, yet his system didn't work any better than Ptolemy's or Brahe's. The fact is, even the honest heliocentrists admit that, even though it may be unique to have Earth in the center, it is possible and they cannot disprove it. GWW [ Galileo Was Wrong ] has quotes from them all saying so. Hubble saw it in his telescope and said it would be an "intolerable" and "horrible" fact for him to accept, and sought for another alternative. Einstein saw it in the interferometers and refused to allow it, opting instead for changing the face of physics for his own choice of cosmologies. Even Newton, the one who told us about the center of mass, admitted it. So despite your fear, we have science on our side. Robert Sungenis
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Question: Why is it an illusion? Why isn't it just a matter of perspective? Both are equally real - they just depend on where you watch from. RT
Answer: You are mathematically correct, I did say reference frames were a mathematical tool, unrelated to reality. I find it strange that you consider two different perspectives as equal reality. There can only be one truth. Perspective is an illusion, unless you already agree with our proposition that the sun moves across the sky of a stationary Earth! Regarding the travelling ball: both cannot be equally real with respect to the ball itself which I am discussing. What is the ball in truth and reality doing? That's real science. But perspectives could be equally illusions, to the observer on the plane or the alleged stationary observer outside the plane. Unless we could establish an absolute stationary point, ( which Geocentrism does ) then we must assume all the different observations are illusions and appearances - i.e. "relative". But in the jet plane I know the two foot drop in a straight line is an illusion, because with my intellect I know that I and the ball are travelling at 600 miles per hour. That much I know. These are the only motions to consider for the Geocentrist, but for the heliocentrist there is no end, even at galactic motion...... What is the galaxy motion referenced to? etc, etc, etc... Philip Madsen
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"It's also possible that all 'scientists' that promote the heliocentric idea are selling out because they want money so badly. There are lots of people who will do almost anything for money."
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Statement: "Very few of us -- even those, such as myself, who have taken a degree in astronomy -- are able to understand what is being discussed in the
above paragraphs on cosmology -- except, perhaps, that such arcane subjects are way beyond our ken. But while we may not be able to understand much about this material, there is one feature of it that we CAN understand, to
wit, that such subjects are not well-grasped by even the professionals in
the field. I say this because here we have a small collection of professionals who are checking out a mathematical proof, but are not really
certain of its correctness, and thus can only claim that the result is
correct on the basis that other professionals have checked it, too. We
see here then a clear limit of even very able human minds -- that we
cannot be sure of ourselves unless we have had others to check what we
have said. That is an important lesson, and one which is only rarely
appreciated. In fact, we can carry the lesson further and observe that most
people are very weak on logic -- so weak, it might be said, that they
cannot even think their way out of a paper bag."
above paragraphs on cosmology -- except, perhaps, that such arcane subjects are way beyond our ken. But while we may not be able to understand much about this material, there is one feature of it that we CAN understand, to
wit, that such subjects are not well-grasped by even the professionals in
the field. I say this because here we have a small collection of professionals who are checking out a mathematical proof, but are not really
certain of its correctness, and thus can only claim that the result is
correct on the basis that other professionals have checked it, too. We
see here then a clear limit of even very able human minds -- that we
cannot be sure of ourselves unless we have had others to check what we
have said. That is an important lesson, and one which is only rarely
appreciated. In fact, we can carry the lesson further and observe that most
people are very weak on logic -- so weak, it might be said, that they
cannot even think their way out of a paper bag."
Response: Yes, you're right and this shows us a problem that many people don't even realize exists or certainly do not fully appreciate the scope of...... the biologist needs time, and turns to the astronomers who tell them...... oh yea there is plenty of time out there for all that......we can see at least 15 billion years...... while the astronomer/cosmologist based his assertion on the physicist who told him that the mechanics of the universe show us that the universe is so "bizarre" we dare not believe what our senses tell us...... but all in all that physicist can feel comfortable with his conclusions coz, after all, he knew even from K-12/HS biology that man evolved after billions of years of evolutionary life !?...... No wonder they can't see their own fallacies. It is built not just on their lifetimes but a series of lifetimes and so many various fields, that almost nobody can see or really even knows what the problems with the other disciplines are...... You almost have to master all the disciplines to see your way clear of the clutter of logical contradictions and endless circular fallacies built one atop of another over a period of years. Allen Daves
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"It may be true that there's not much money in astronomy, BUT I take issue that astronomers don't yield economic clout. Cornell's Harlow Shapley threatened Velikovsky's publisher with the loss of all their textbook business if they didn't kill "Worlds in Collision" and yank it off the presses. The shabby treatment accorded Velikovsky, up through and including his encounter with the American Academy for the Advancement of Science, is well-known and is a blot on academic freedom. I'm no Velikovskian, by any stretch, but the treatment he received at Shapley's hands was brutal. Velikovsky, ever the gentleman, seemed a saint in comparison to his fuming interlocutors.
Further to this, perhaps you could explain why Dr. Halton Arp was thrown off the Palomar telescope? At the time, he was the world's expert in the use of that amazing instrument, recent recipient of the Humboldt Senior Scientist prize, etc. Or was his challenge of the red shift question regarding quasars simply unacceptable and thus the hammer was lowered on this scientist for doing "the wrong research" ( viz., research that stood in opposition to the cosmogonies entrenched in the textbooks )? Unless you discount Dr. Arp's eyewitness account and that of his associates, there really isn't any dispute as to what happened here.
You speak of the passions of astronomers. There were passions aplenty exhibited in the above two examples -- and those passions didn't reflect well on the astronomers involved, dear Regner. In other words, let's not over-generalize in favor of astronomers. The exceptions are stark and ugly and stand out as warnings to others to watch their step. I could multiply further examples but these two are blatant." Martin Selbrede
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Question: If a scientist says to you, "There is no such thing as time", then reply to him, "Then why do you have a watch on your wrist"? Or, "Then why do people wear watches"?
Answer: Because, being three dimensional, and not four, we would have no idea of the exact position on the time line we were. But before I rest let me say I did not say there was no time. I promoted the Biblical idea of tempus or time as temporary - having a beginning and an end. It is this that watches measure, the real movement along a dimension we only subjectively appreciate or feel - i.e. a minute feels like an hour( in pain ) or the reverse when enjoying oneself. Now God has eternity which is above our miserable three dimensional experience. God ( and we as souls ) is a four dimensional being. He sees our temporary time as a fixed dimension of a four dimensional created object. He sees it from what we call beginning to end, or the reverse if He so wishes. I am certain that when we are separated from these limiting bodies our soul will see it in the same manner, and wonder! See all our sins at once, as they burden our Redeemer on the cross. Yes we will see the Execution in glorious 4D colour. Hence the New Earth with a NEW resurrected body that is complete and able to appreciate eternity, which I may for fun sake call real time.... Philip Madsen
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"America has a lot of college and university science graduates, but most of them are of no value. American colleges and universities are giving science degrees to almost anybody that has money."
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"Organized Theoretical-Science Crime Gangs are operating freely all over the world because humans are just like the animals who hide from danger. It would be very easy for the Americans and Europeans to get rid of the Theoretical-Science Crime Network, and it would be easy for the Japanese to get rid of their
Organized Theoretical-Science Gangs, and the Chinese could easily get rid of their Theoretical-Science Gangs. All we need are some men who can face the Theoretical-Science Criminals instead of hiding from them like a frightened animal."
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"Trying to enlighten people to the truth, that this unbelievable hoax has been pulled off against mankind, won't be met with much respect. In fact, prepare to be considered a lunatic. All I can say is, who cares? The truth is the truth, and the reality is that we've all bit the big one on this. God told us in the Revelation that an angel would appear and make a declaration to all mankind that they should worship the One who made the Heavens and the Earth. ( Revelation 14:7 ) He appears right before the angel that announces the fall of Babylon the Great. It's right about the time that Babylon goes down that God will let mankind know what a rotating Earth is like when he rocks the world to its foundations. It would all go down together: Everything from the moon-landing hoax to the Cold War Hoax to the Holocaust to create Israel hoax, the whole Illuminati/Jesuit flim-flam of mankind. On that day all those who are knowing their God will be rewarded richly for their faithfulness and for waiting on Him." more HERE.
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Statement/Question - I was thinking how great the Internet is. There isn't a thing that I need to know that I cannot find. "But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat. For in what day soever thou shalt eat of it, thou shalt die the death. Sounds like the Internet doesn't it? A tree of knowledge... a dangerous place, of course. But why was it forbidden, given the good was also there? P.M.
Response - The way I see it, like an innocent child, or like an animal, we didn't know good, or evil, we just did good, not out of knowing it and therefore chosing to do it, but doing good automatically, like it was programmed into us, so we couldn't help to do good, didn't even have to know it or think about it.
Why the tree was there was in order than man could have the choice to worship and obey God out of choice. If there was no choice God would never have the Joy of experiencing our voluntary Love. It was forbidden as God knew we would do evil if we knew evil, but by it being forbidden, it was the one item that could demonstrate man's acceptance of God's rule over us. If nothing was forbidden, there would be no way to demonstrate our rejection of him. Satan however raised a challenge - that God didn't have the right to rule man, and also he wanted the worship for himself, so he persuaded man to eat from the tree, therefore no longer automatically doing and being good, but now knowing good and bad, we now have to make our own choices of doing good or bad, governing our own actions and rejecting Gods sovereignty over us. As Satan said, we can become like God, knowing good and bad, trouble is, we havn't got the moral strength of God to chose good over bad, which is why we need His Dominion over us, for him to chose what is good for us. Some people might think it's good to be free to make our own decisions, they might still want to reject Gods coming Kingdom. To Satan though, and the heavenly hosts and to the majority of suffering mankind, it has been plainly demonstrated that it is not in man's best interest to reject God's sovereignty over us and rule ourselves. As for the internet, find out what you can whilst you can, it is a serious threat to the Ruling Elite who depend on our ignorance to steer us with their lying propaganda. There are rumours about a government-controlled "Internet 2" on its way. You can bet they will blame "terrorism" on why they need to control our freedom of information. Pete Charlton
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"Science Falsely So Called" Roams the Universities Unimpeded By Facts: MH
News item:
"The voice of Neanderthal Man has been synthesized 30,000 years after the human relatives became extinct. Scientists in the US have used a reconstruction of the larynx of Homo neanderthalis and computer models to mimic the way that the species probably spoke. Only one sound - the "e" - has been generated so far, which seems strangulated and nasal in comparison with its human equivalent. Robert McCarthy, of Florida Atlantic University, who is leading the research, said that he hoped eventually to produce an entire sentence."
Responses:
"Isn't this just a form of Witchcraft or Magic?"
"Isn't it strange how without any flesh or hair samples the artistic ability of the illustrators is let loose and the skin tone and hair colour are portrayed?" I.C.
"They find one little bone fragment, and from that they fantasize an entire species, including what it looks like and how it lives. Their arrogance is what caused that Piltdown Man fiasco. I saw an article in which a scientist was saying that he thinks the Piltdown man was the result of deliberate sabotage. One scientist made a piece of bone look rather old and then buried it where another scientist was digging for bones, and when that other scientist found it, he created Piltdown Man theory, and then many years later they realized that it was a fraud. But the original scientists involved were dead, so nobody was sure who created a hoax and why." E.H.
"This is just another example of MainStream Science's waste of resources. It's part of MS's campaign to brainwash the populace into totally accepting evolution and the removal of a need for God." Jack Lewis
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Fake Jap Moon Photo:
It's the curvature relative to the feature sizes in the Japanese photo and then compared with the larger curvature and lesser detail in the NASA photo. Regarding the high definition of the Japanese photo, the NASA photo was supposed to have been taken on film - a very much higher resolution because of the emulsion grain size. The two moons shown cannot possibly be the same moon with or without stars... The craters appear to be too big compared to the horizon curvature. Jack Lewis
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News item: One Giant Blunder for Mankind: How NASA Lost Moon Pictures
"But just 37 years after Apollo 11, it is feared the magnetic tapes that recorded the first moon walk - beamed to the world via three tracking stations, including Parkes's famous "Dish" - have gone missing at NASA's Goddard Space Centre in Maryland." "Also among tapes feared missing are the original recordings of the other five Apollo moon landings."
Response: Tapes "disintegrating into dust before they can be found," all alleged missions have suffered from the tape grabbers, tapes could never be copied or played even if 'found', too good for TV at the time, had to be played onto a screen, ... Who believes this garbage? Neville Jones, PhD
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- "... it must be understood that the origin of Zionism is to be found in Rabbi Ben Nachman's 13th century writings in the Kabbala, which is contained in the Zohar, and is a spiritual ally of the Christ-hating Talmud. These are "holy books" from a "religion" which is devoted to the destruction of the Bible in general and the New Testament of Jesus Christ in particular. Like it or not, this is what the hard facts say. Those facts declare that this is a war which, at bottom, is a fight to the finish between the teachings of the Kabbala/Talmud and the precise opposite teachings of Jesus."
- "...Historical Revisionists seem totally committed to ignoring this spiritual raison d'etre behind Zionist efforts and successes. "Let's leave 'religion' entirely out of this", seems to be the Revisionist motto. Why an altruistic devotion to revealing deception and discovering Truth must stop at 'religion'--the very place where it must begin in order to succeed--I leave for others to answer. All I know is this: The secular, "leave 'religion' out of it" approach is capable of taking important Truths to first or second base, but that approach will never bring them across home plate. Shall Truth's runners be forever held on the bases while the opposition repeatedly scores?"
- "... the biggest Truth Bomb of all, that the mission the Zionists are fulfilling is spiritual, not secular; that the false science being used to complete that mission is set forth in ancient Jewish holy books ( Kabbala/Talmud ), and
that the stated goal of this spiritual warfare is the destruction of New Testament Christianity."
-"Truth seeking Revisionists need to ask themselves this question: 'If I believe the universe and all life forms including mankind came to be as the Zionist Kabbala describes ( Big Bang; Expanding Universe; Relativity; 15 billion years; evolutionism... ) am I unwittingly aligned spiritually with that which I know is the key player in the very deceptions I labor to expose?'" Marshall Hall
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Now Chinese as well are exposed as Space Exploration Liars!
China's lunar probe pictures taken last week, left, and the 2005 NASA pictures, right. The head scientist of China's flagship lunar probe programme has been forced to defend the authenticity of its first published photograph after internet moon-gazers suggested it might be a copy.The Chinese prime minister, Wen Jiabao, unveiled the first photograph sent back on the inaugural mission of the Chang-e 1 lunar probe amid much patriotic emotion last week. But in a response to public scepticism unusual for such a token of national pride, internet bulletin boards began pointing out the similarity of the photograph to one published by NASA, the American space agency, two years ago. But one bulletin board poster, who called himself IMCC, wondered if it was a coincidence that the picture was so similar to the NASA version. "The two pictures are not just alike," he wrote. "They are actually are the same." Excerpted from: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/03/wchina103.xml
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"1) How does a ball and feather drop prove gravitational theory and demonstrate that with planetary mechanics? 2) Even Mainstream Science openly admits the inverse square law breaks down and is not absolute. 3) The fact that it breaks down so much so that they have to create 90% of their universal model built with "dark matter" and "dark energy" that is ownly knowable by virtue of the fact that their model would not work without it. 4) We are not discussing a ball and feather, we are discussing how gravity works not just on the small scale but large scale with planets and suns ect.....All bodies and a universe all interacting at once with each other." Allen Daves
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"And look at NASA. How much longer are we going to pretend that astronauts landed on the moon? NASA claims they have two rovers on Mars, but I have a feeling they're both in the Australian desert.
In the world today, anybody who gets a PhD is referred to as a scientist. We assume that scientists are intelligent people who we can look to for advice, but we're not going to get sensible advice from an educated monkey.
Don't be impressed by a college diploma. The people who graduate from college are certainly capable of memorizing information, and some excell at performing math operations, but many of them are criminals or mental defects. Just look at how many of them are lying to us right now about 9/11, the Apollo moon landing, and the Holocaust." E.H.
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Question: "I was wondering what you thought about the co-incidence of the rotating axis pointing directly at Earth, and also the way the star has kept the same relationship to Earth in order to take an 8 year time lapse picture, and how it might possibly relate to Geocentrism?" P.C.
Answer: "Well, according to some people, since the distance is so far away the angle of the rotational axis never changes noticeably...choke choke. Funny is it not......astromomers can in fact find distant planets orbiting distant suns and stars by virtue of those stars' wobble as demonstrated in the Doppler shift of the light coming from all those distant stars, but we cannot seem to show or find the synchronized Doppler shift to account for the Earth's annual orbital motion with respect to all those stars. The fact that no such Doppler shift exists speaks volumes concerning the absence of any such motion ( Geocentric universe wobble OR heliocentric/acentric universe annual Earth orbit )." Allen Daves
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Hollywood’s “E.T”, “Jurassic Puke”, and ten thousand other extraterrestrial evolution-indoctrinating flicks, books, and TV programs have done their job. People’s brains have been carpet-bombed increasingly with the evolution mantra 24/7 for 40-50 years. When the unrelenting computer-generated Virtual Reality Fraud from Sagan and Goldin’s control of NASA’S “Origins Program” is factored in, we have a world mesmerized and seduced into believing a DECEPTION of supernatural proportions and consequences. Marshall Hall
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"Please can you tell us the technique used that they can so accurately tell the difference between 7.5 Billion and 7.5 million light years distance? It's a bit like measuring something and saying it is at infinity, and saying something else is twice infinity. I am confused by the fact that if I can have infinity from now to the future, and I know I can have infinity from now backwards in the past, isn't that all up twice as long...grin...or maybe it's only half an infinity each way? Two nights ago, 'astronomers observed a cosmic explosion so intense it was visible to the naked eye from a distance of 7.5 billion light years'." Philip Madsen
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"Satan is very real. His business is deception. The more his deceptions seem to be Biblical, the better they are, the more people they fool, and the harder it is to get those who are fooled to even consider that they are following or their church is following a Satanic deception rather than God's Truth.
After all, if a person has for several years or even throughout his or her whole life embraced heliocentricity or some other belief that is threatened, it is tempting to just ignore the challenge and hope it will go away. But this hope is futile. God knows all our thoughts. He knows if we let false pride [ self-conceit ] prevent us from following His Truth of Geocentrism, and He knows if we let it convince us to follow Satan's heliocentricity deception instead. He knows. And if we think we can outsmart God about Geocentrism or any other area, we are mistaken. Moreover, His judgement is real. He is going to judge everybody on their works, their faith, and their obedience.
And for certain God is going to judge us on the basis of our love for His truth. Jesus is Truth. The Word of God is Truth. The Holy Spirit is truth. God cannot lie. If we are to be God's children for eternity in Heaven we must show him that we will welcome His Truth and reject any lie no matter how hard on us it may seem to be. If we don't love God enough and desire Heaven enough to turn away from any lie that we have followed ( innocently ) when we find out it is a lie, then God cannot be and will not be our Father. Satan is the father of lies, not God. No lie is of the Truth. We cannot knowingly follow lies like heliocentricity and expect to go to Heaven. The Bible ( the Truth ) says that "those who receive not a love of the Truth will perish". It says we must rejoice in the Truth. And why not?! If we love the Truth we can have eternal life. Isn't that reason to rejoice?!" Marshall Hall
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"Two cosmological models of the universe exist. Both are based upon the irreconcilable views of Geocentrism or heliocentricity. Neither is secular, i.e., both are religious. Admittedly, scientists in the aggregate don't know this yet, but it is indisputably true, and they are going to know it if there is a God of Truth who wrote the Book which repeatedly affirms Geocentrism and repudiates heliocentricity. The sooner, the better for scientists and non-scientists alike who want the Truth of the matter, regardless of what follows." Marshall Hall
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"The sun and the stars are moving with the aether, so there is virtually no inertial reaction. And thus we can have none of this argument or matter of the sun and stars exceeding light speed as they rotate around us, or having this enormous centrifugal force outwards because, with respect to and relative to the aether, they are NOT moving." Philip Madsen
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Statement:
"Perhaps you have forgotten, allow me to refresh your memory: "Religion 4. human recognition of superhuman controlling power and especially of a personal God entitled to obedience, effect of such recognition on conduct and mental attitude." I did not previously ask you personally but I do so here. Please explain in your own words - 1. What is the name of the God of science? 2. In what matters does this God demand obedience?"
Answer (1):
1. Everyone has a God/god; either himself, Jim Jones, Satan, The State, impersonal evolutionary forces, or The Creator God of the Christian Holy Bible. The name of the God of True Science is "Jehovah God"
or "Father God". The name of the god of false science is Lucifer.
2. "In what matters does this God demand obedience?" I would have to write a book, and I'm not going to do that for you. How about commandment eight, "Thou shalt not steal"? So don't steal food from Safeway Grocery Store and then eat it. But earn your own money, or raise it voluntarily and then go buy
some food and then eat it and satisfy your stomach. Likewise don't steal money to buy a telescope or Space Shuttle or particle accelerator. But earn your own money, or raise it voluntarily and then go buy some telescopes and then look through it to satisfy your eyes. You see? I have just solved the whole Geocentrism versus heliocentricity debate, there is no other answer, this is the only answer. It is The Enormous Purple Dinosaur in the backyard that everyone refuses to acknowledge and no one is allowed to talk about. By all means believe in heliocentrism, Geocentrism, flat Earth, concave Earth or anything else, but do not ask "The State" to steal ( tax ) a median income father and then give it to some other people who are curious about the sky. Because you know what? For all I know the Earth could be flat, everyone who has not PERSONALLY seen the Earth from a spaceship HAS TO agree with that, nobody is allowed to disagree,
it is "illegal" to disagree with that statement. And I only mean 100.0000 per cent sure. It is OK to be 99% sure that the Earth is not flat. But even all that is irrelevant to the moral ( stealing ) question of, "If you want to find out Then Use Your Own ( or VOLUNTARILY RAISED ) Satan-Darned Money". Also see "Not Yours to Give" by Colonel Davy Crockett HERE. BB
Answer (2): The g'd of theoretical science is the Pharisee Religion's g'd. Anyone can read of each and every concept that makes up an evolution-based "creation scenario" that has become today's textbook cosmology and find them in ancient Rabbinic writings in the Zohar/Kabbala. It's a religion; it has a g'd. You tell me who it is or isn't? There is nothing "secular" about the "theoretical science" the world believes is really secular with no religious affiliation. Marshall Hall
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Gravity is Push, not Pull
Man's misconception about the nature of gravity is a damning judgement on the nature of the intellect and its complete inability to lift itself higher. Everything has to absolutely originate from the Earth with no thought given to the possibility that the origin of all things actually comes from above. Hence we have conceptions like the gravitational attraction of the Earth and also of the individual planets.
Since the intellect has its origin from the Earth, it is therefore not surprising that it places everything that it tries to investigate on its own level and ascribes the origin of all things to the Earth. It is science that is to blame for all this and not the intellect, or rather the scientists who attempt to investigate the natural world with a tool that is in no wise endowed with the capacity to do so. How could gravity arise from the Earth? How could each planetary body have its own gravitational force or attraction? The simplicity in Creation precludes such theories.
How could the Earth or the other planets for that matter be the origin for anything? These lie on the lowest plane in the entire Creation and naturally speaking and when looked out logically, it becomes clear that whatever lies at the bottom of a strata can never give origin to something that permeates the whole hence something as fundamental and important as gravity.
The word "gravity" itself denotes something that comes from above, a power that comes from above the Earthly which in the first place gives origin to the strata or stratification of the entire Creation. It automatically accounts for the layering of all the structures in Creation depending on their weights.
Since it is a power that comes from above, it permeates everything. It is a Law of Creation. There is no place in Creation where its effect will not be found and it is this observation of its pervasiveness that science has erroneously interpreted by saying that every single planetary body has its own gravitational attraction because it looks at things only from its own perspective which is narrow and earthly with the Earth always at the centre of all happenings. It never occurs to the intellect and hence to science that the actual reason and the origin for the effects it has observed lie far above the material world.
Now since the effect of gravity is to be found in all things then it must be a law. Its all pervasiveness and regularity cannot but make us conclude that this effect is indeed the result of a law which permits of no deviation. We all know the characteristics of a 'law'. It is something that is enshrined and which may not be tampered with or ignored without consequences.
Now since we are all agreed that this effect of gravity must be a law and since this law was not one of the man-made ones, where then did it come from? It is as if this effect of gravity is just there, has always been there as something natural and as something we have come to regard as natural and have thereby taken for granted. Everyone knows it, even every child.
Since we all regard it as something natural, then it must be a law of Nature, since Nature is natural. It is therefore one of the natural laws which cannot be shifted and which never changes. Since it never changes, we must conclude that it is perfect since immutability is a characteristic of perfection.
Since it is a natural law - the Law of Gravitation - and since all natural laws come from God, and since God lies far above the Creations, then this effect of gravity comes from far above. It comes from God. God is the Power behind gravity. Gravity is therefore much more than we think. Its all-pervading nature should have raised our suspicions, since only the Power from God is all-pervading.
Gravity is therefore a Divine Law in Creation which permeates everything and is immutable, perfect and just. Its effect is responsible for the division of Creation into layers depending on their weights, whereby we have the spiritual parts of Creation lying higher and closer to God because they are lighter and the material parts of Creation lying lower because these are heavier and as such must be placed far away from God.
We all therefore must rethink gravity. Our fates depend on it since at our earthly death it also determines which realm we find ourselves, depending on our spiritual weights. If while on Earth we had always regarded the things of the Earth as of paramount importance, then our spiritual weights will be more, but if on the other hand we had already started to strive after the spiritual and the noble, then our spiritual weights will be less and we will be attracted to realms which correspond to our weights, lighter and more luminous.
Let us begin today with that volition and pray to the Lord that we be given the strength to do so. Amen. http://www.kisol.com/science/gravity.htm
Response: Different approach to questioning gravity. All such questioning is useful because if one carries it out logically two things will happen, I believe: a) One will see the inescapable Creation Concept in it, as this writer does; or b) One will run into the electromagnetic concept--which is almost infinitely stronger physically--and will move toward an Electric Universe understanding of how it all works...a concept that can readily accommodate the present Biblical cosmos which is just a temporary testing ground for the real thing...the eternal New Earth. The problem with (a) is that while it may lead toward a spiritual appreciation of everything, it can just as well be some version of dancing around a fire and rattling beads in a coconut as getting a real grasp on the Biblical God's Plan. Marshall Hall
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Statement: "I got bored, so I just thought I'd mention that the entire cause of the weather patterns and ocean currents on the Earth ( i.e. cyclones and anti-cyclones, jet stream, gulf stream etc. ) is due to it's rotation. You'll also find that Naval gunners have to allow for this annoying little FACT called the coriolis force, also due to the Earth's spin. With no respect whatsoever could I suggest that people who ignore science in favour of religious twaddle and then think they can force it down other people's throats are weak-minded simpletons." Rob
Response: He obviously does not comprehend "Mach's Principle". If he did he would not appeal to descriptions of effects of "forces" he does not even begin to grasp for explanations that troubled even Einstein and crew. It is ironic when folk who claim to be educated "people of science" make these kinds of statements - the "simpletons" if any are folks like this. They neither understand what does or what does not constitute proof nor are they even aware that their examples of "evidence for science" are based on assumptions that make far more logical and demonstrable sense in a Geocentric Universe. Like so many people they don't know what they are talking about ( although they are clearly indoctrinated properly into the "Copernican Faith" ) yet they want to ridicule others not only for something they themselves engage in but also for things they don't even begin to grasp. Allen Daves
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